The individual accessing this site assumes the risk of safe loading practices. However, it cannot be approached the same as smokeless. and other smokeless cartridges were introduced. One problem inherent with the original #454424 was the fact that when sized to 0.451 to 0.452 inch, the crimping groove almost disappears. South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: I have found 5.0 grains of Clays under a 250-grain bullet delivers a very pleasant-shooting load at 725 fps and will group all its shots in 0.63 inch at 20 yards. Smith & Wesson revolver throats have varied significantly. However, when using soft swaged-lead bullets, an expander ball around .002 inch smaller than bullet diameter is preferred. For example, the .45 Colt with a 255-grain bullet at 860 fps (Winchester) generates 419 ft-lbs, while the .44 Magnum with a 240-grain bullet at 1,180 fps (Remington) generates 741 ft-lbs. The .45 Colt was soon loaded with smokeless powders with loads eventually standardized with 250- and 255-grain lead hollowbase bullets from Remington and Winchester, respectively, at around 870 fps, but today are listed at 860 fps. Utah Division of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: At 1,400 fps it is an excellent hunting bullet. So both the up and down positions were closer in speeds and the spreads were noticeably closer. Ruger's multi-role small frame autoloading rifle - Sear - combines AR-10 power with AR-15 Portability. Cast RCBS 45-270-SAA bullets are generally loaded to an overall length of 1.650 inches to not over 1.655 inches, utilizing the full length of the Colt cylinder. This one is from Lyman 48th addition Reloading book. They are my choice for everyday use and also for hunting larger, tougher game. I seat and crimp just over the bullet radius. The charge weight is 9.2 grains. Everything really starts with our Vision, which is:To be the best-run business in America, and the most successful, most respected business in our industry, for the benefit of our Customers. This is a pretty bold Vision, but its absolutely real. With the 45 Colt, IMR 4227 is almost magical in being able to provide excellent accuracy when other powders will not. I have found two things necessary gas checks and hard alloys, also in most cases muzzle velocities over 1,200-1,300 fps. bullet type,style,powder ,amount,col.,primeres,and if possable fps. For the 45 Colt this is the Single Action Army revolver. Michigan Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency: Using a 250-grain cast bullet, 37.5 grains by volume of Pyrodex P results in a very potent 987 fps and a five-shot, 50-foot group of 0.88 inch in my revolver. In preparation for this article, I pulled from my personal collection a Colt SAA with serial number 16xxx (1875) that slugged an average groove diameter of .450 inch. The accompanying data was developed using Starline cases that are strong, offer long life and are available factory direct. I didnt realize how many different powders from Hodgdon I use in loading the 45 Colt until I began putting this article together. However, when using versions that weigh 250 grains, it is sometimes difficult to reach high enough velocities to achieve reliable expansion while staying within industry pressure guidelines. For the 45 Colt, I especially prefer the 250-grain RNFP and the 255-grain SWC. Rifle Data Here you will find load data for some of the most recent cartridges on the market, with more being added each week. The final level includes custom five-shot Rugers and the Freedom Arms Model 83. His 45 Colt bullet was #454424 and was available for decades from Lyman. (In fairness, many historians maintain that original loads contained 40 grains of black powder with 255-grain bullets, including noted Colt authority John Kopec.) You may even have bullets stopping partway in the barrel with that light of a charge. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM Old West 2023, PO Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. That is black powder loads or Black powder level only. I was fortunate to find one of each. Any time I have a 45 Colt that doesnt shoot the way I think it should, I dont give up until I try this load of IMR 4227 with Keiths bullet. SWC - 9.6 grains Unique Lyman # 454190 , 250 gr. More than 45 years of shooting and slugging the barrels of hundreds of Colt SAAs suggests differently. However, in those long-gone days I was able to find two Winchester Trappers both in .45 Colt and the Marlin versions in both calibers mentioned. HS7 is slowest of the group (Similar to 2400) The vast majority of my 45 Colt handloads over the last 60 years, however, has been put together with cast bullets. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks & Tourism, State Agency: We are currently populating the cartridge drop-down menu with updated cartridge renderings, new propellants and bullets, and links to complimentary product pages. 53 pg. However, this approach causes some bullet deformation by being shortened, then sized down in the barrel, which still leaves accuracy potential on the table. Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection, State Agency: This lets it feed in many cowboy-action guns and use common 45 ACP load data. These will still work in the vast majority of sixguns with the exception of the old short cylinder Smith & Wesson N-frames produced prior to 1978 and a couple of others not commonly encountered. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. On paper, the 357 Magnum was the first cartridge to exceed the 45 Colts muzzle energy, but many knowledgeable sixgunners, Elmer Keith included, believed the 45 Colt actually offered more practical power than the First Magnum. Today, it remains one of our most popular sixgun cartridges. It has never failed me. I would think that the load you are using would be safe. New Hampshire Fish & Game Department, State Agency: One problem inherent with the original #454424 was the fact that when sized to 0.451 to 0.452 inch, the crimping groove almost disappears. The Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute (SAAMI) has established the maximum average pressure for .45 Colt at 14,000 psi (commonly referred to as standard pressure), which should only be used in guns originally designed for smokeless powder ammunition. .449 inch to .460 inch, and Smith & Wessons from .451 to .458 inch. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. These figures correspond with the many other pre-World War II guns that I have slugged. This revolver and cartridge proved to be a great teacher as I learned how to shoot a big-bore single-action sixgun accurately. A check of Hodgdons loading manuals shows these two powders using the same charge weight produce the same velocities and pressures. Loading the .45 Colt It's vital to understand today's loading manuals typically include .45 Colt loads at two different power levels: under 14,000 CUP and under 29,000 PSI. This Colt SAA .45 was manufactured in 1893 and saw extensive use on the frontier prior to being professionally restored. It basically started in the early 1870s as a round-nosed bullet given a slight flattened nose. If your Hornady book says 45 Colts use a 458 bullet, they are wrong. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Colt191145. The Smith & Wesson Model 29 is the sixgun by which all other .44 Magnums are judged. We are currently populating the cartridge drop-down menu with updated cartridge renderings, new propellants and bullets, and links to complimentary product pages. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. check out the. The vast majority of my 45 Colt handloads over the last 60 years, however, has been put together with cast bullets. Elmer Keith was way ahead of his time in developing everyday working and hunting loads. Knowing this measurement for a given revolver is critical to select the correct components to achieve accuracy. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. Idaho Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: Nebraska Game & Parks Commission, State Agency: Its also a good choice for hunting. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM February 2023, P.O. Louisiana Department of Wildlife & Fisheries, State Agency: Contest void where prohibited by law. Bullseye, Unique and 2400 are products of Alliant (formerly Hercules) Powders. I usually select an expander ball that is at least .003 to .004 inch smaller than bullet diameter, which helps prevent bullets from jumping crimp and aids in achieving consistent powder ignition. The new rifle is built on an aluminum billet chassis with carbon-fiber forend and cheek riser featuring V-block bedding. But the 45 Colt is a survivor. In actual weight, Pyrodex is lighter than black powder, being about 80 percent of the weight of black powder. SWC - 9.0 grains Unique Lyman # 452664 , 250 gr. With my alloys this bullet runs around 280 to 285 grains while at the same time having a slightly shorter nose than the original Keith design so it fits in all Colt cylinders. Marlin and Winchester 1894s will both handle heavier-than-standard .45 Colt loads but 1860, 1866 and 1873 replicas are for standard loads only! When the new 454 Magnum revolvers (as they were first called) arrived, however, the brass was lengthened so it could not be used in standard 45 Colt sixguns. The Hornady 225-grain FTX bullet should be loaded in cases trimmed shorter than the industry standard of 1.215 inches. All Freedom Arms cylinders are held to very tight tolerances and whether using 45 Colt or 454 Casull brass, I size with a special 454 die. These Lyman loads are conservative made for older guns. It is also noteworthy that many dies manufactured prior to around 1980 fail to size cases adequately to correctly hold .451/.452-inch bullets. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Rhode Island Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: North Dakota Game & Fish Department, State Agency: Contrary to popular belief, the Mason patented spring-loaded, cylinder-pin release catch first appeared in 1896 around serial number 164,000, which were still black powder guns. My gun was a new model Bisely blackhawk long barrel. Exactly when the .45 Colt factory load containing 250-grain bullets propelled by 40 grains of black powder was first offered is unknown, but it was probably assembled at the Colt factory. Taurus Marketing Manager Caleb Giddings highlights the features of the new Taurus Raging Hunter 460 Magnum, a purpose-built revolver with a 10.5-inch barrel and an effective recoil-taming brake, with Guns & Ammo Executive Editor Joe Kurtenbach. However, there are two problems associated with it: case capacity and cylinder throat diameters. I have used them to take big game, including mule deer and bears. The on-line Hogdon load data shows the following for TiteGroup and a 255 gr LSWC: Starting load of 5.0 gr for an approx 716 feet per second and a pressure of 7.6K cup. Illinois Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: rifling. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. After all the work and expense, it turned out to be a somewhat mediocre performer. It would also be excellent for a defense load. The smaller case-capacity means better performance with light loads, which is why I am interested in it. A gun is like a parachute: If you need one and don't have one, you won't be needing one again. They are my choice for the heaviest loads especially with cast bullets weighing 300 grains and heavier. Both of these are plainbased Keith-style bullets, and their numbers are #310.451 and #325.454, with the first three digits giving the approximate bullet weight. That is, until I tried IMR 4227 with Lymans #452424 and a 20.0-grain load, and that combination produced one-hole groups. 458 is a rifle bullet. However, Dick Casull started with the 45 Colt single action and the weak 45 Colt case to come up with his cartridge, which eventually became the 454 Casull. It didnt take long for manufacturers to offer heavier bullets, and two of the best came from NEI. We are blessed to have many excellent cartridges and sixguns available to us, but it would be hard to find any cartridge that is as versatile as the old 45 Colt. All Guns and Ammo subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. Here you will find load data for some of the most recent cartridges on the market, with more being added each week. When he died in 1862, the company was dedicated to producing the same percussion revolvers. I have been surprised by the fact the Marlin feeds Keith-style bullets perfectly. The Colt factory has told me these large throats are intended to keep chamber pressures low, which is nonsense. West Virginia Division of Natural Resources, State Agency: However, due to their heavier weights and increased barrel time, many fixed-sighted sixguns may group high. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. The day of the percussion revolver would soon be over, and even Colt could see the future and began converting 1860 cap-and-ball sixguns to fire cartridges. 310 Tong Tool. In addition to outstanding terminal performance and accuracy in guns with correct internal dimensions, it offers low pressures, mild muzzle report and controllable recoil, all of which make it especially practical for an outdoorsman who uses a sixgun daily. For a heavier bullet with #4227 I use 22.0 grains with the 305-grain Lyman #454629 gas check at 1,315 fps while grouping in 5/8 for three shots. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. They are my choice for everyday use and also for hunting larger, tougher game. There are some excellent jacketed bullets available for use in the 45 Colt, including the Sierra 240-grain JHP, Hornady 250-grain XTP-JHP, and the Speer 260-grain JHP, all of which I prefer for deer-sized game. They often equal or surpass the accuracy from my carefully tailored hand-cast bullets. It takes at least two rounds to be able to see if the rounds are too long to accomplish both operations. It has many additional virtues, primarily its big-bore performance and reliability. In my opinion, throats that measure .452 inch are generally ideal with a variety of bullets. For testing I go with three shots at 45 yards. The 45 Colt brass was up to the task. After that date bore diameters were reduced to .451-.452 inch, the same as the .45 Auto. I can only assume the above statement of bore diameter was intended to indicate groove, diameter. The 45 Colt brass could handle the pressures, but standard sixguns could not. (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start, unless it is lesser of several loads or other indications like mild or cowboy etc.) Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. .45 Colt (180-200 grain bullets) .44 Mag (180-200 grain bullets) .38-40 (180 grain bullets) I had hangfires in the .45 Colt with less amount of Reddot. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM May 2023, P.O. With Accurates 5744 the speeds with 17.0 were 853 fps UP and 802 DOWN, but spreads were much better at 45 fps and 16.6 fps respectively. In 1935 we entered the Magnum Sixgun Era with the arrival of the 357 Magnum; however, long before that we had the 45 Colt. There are now 25 states with so-called Constitutional carry and Florida appears to be approaching permitless carry, which translates to more citizens S&W Set The Bar For Magnum Handgun Performance 50 Years Ago. Incidentally, many jacketed bullet loads will produce higher velocities in revolvers with shorter barrels. Generally, when revolvers with such grossly oversized throats are fired with modern cast and jacketed bullets accuracy is poor. It is loaded not by weight, but by volume. I have been pleasantly surprised by the Marlin Trapper. Cast bullet loads in the Marlin .45 Colt all the power and accuracy Not only do the Hodgdon folks offer excellent powders, but also they are simply some of the nicest folks in the industry. Dropping down to 30 grains results in an easier-shooting 835 fps and a group of 1.13 inches. Deployed military should use stateside address. Cast bullets in both plain-based and gas check versions are available from 260 grains to 325 grains. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. You find load data for cartridges in caliber .45 Colt with all common powders and bullets by clicking the "Loads in this caliber" button above. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. take the .45 Colt as my game and defense cartridge. It is noteworthy that this statement was made 20 years after the development of the .357 Magnum, a cartridge Keith also tested and used in the field. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. The other problem, that of cylinder throat diameters, centers around the fact that they vary considerably. models. Meet the all-new Taurus Judge Executive Grade, a revolver featuring a hand-polished satin finish, presentation-grade wood grips, a brass rod front sight and an exceptional hand-tuned trigger. I especially like the 260-grain Keith gas-check bullet which shoots exceptionally well using #4227, 20.0 grains is 1,115 fps for 5/8 and then it gets even better! now im looking for top performance load data to ass to my load data book for this caliber. FWIW Dale53 #Permalink 1 0 Chris Johnson, FN Senior Product Manager, walks us through two new FN striker-fired pistols at SHOT Show 2023: the FN 510 Tactical, chambered in 10mm Auto, and the FN 545 Tactical, chambered in .45 ACP. Contest void where prohibited by law. Powders include Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Addeddate 2019-02-26 16:21:01 Identifier When he died in 1862, the company was dedicated to producing the same percussion revolvers. At 1,400 fps it is an excellent hunting bullet. Weights in parenthesis are as-cast from wheelweights. Custom five-shooters built on the Ruger Blackhawk, the Ruger Redhawk, and the Freedom Arms Model 83 top the list. barrel differ from a 4 4/5 revolver by After all the work and expense, it turned out to be a somewhat mediocre performer. Contest open to U.S. residents only. Make sure your gun can handle it before What has varied significantly is the throat diameter (ball end, chamber mouth, etc.) Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. Bob Meinert, FN Marketing Director, introduces FN's first commercial pistol suppressor, the FN Rush 9Ti. Moving up to 22.0 grains increases the muzzle velocity to 1,300 fps and then 24.0 grains is right at 1,400 fps with both putting three shots in at 45 yards. We were soon shooting 300-grain bullets at 1,200 fps from a 7.5-inch-barreled Ruger revolver. Using bullets from . H110 works well for heavy bullet loads in the .45 Colt levergun. www.hodgdonreloading.com Broc NES Member Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined Sep 18, 2010 The proud tradition and history of Lyman Products began simply in the late 1800?s when William Lyman, an avid outdoorsman and inventor, created a product that resolved problems with gun sights of his day. (I) Giveaway ends April 30, 2023. There were no 45 Colt heavyweight bullets available at the time, so we sized down 300-grain 45-70 bullets in several stages, going from around 0.460 inch to 0.452 inch. Discussion: The old Western Style COLT normally uses big, heavy and slow lead bullets. Colt single actions are right around 0.454 inch. Two other powders for standard loads include W231 and HP-38. Bullets from RCBS mould 45-270-SAA, which usually weigh around 280 to 285 grains, are designed to maximize powder capacity, are accurate and an excellent choice for hunting big game. Most manufacturers have recognized the need to offer revolvers with correct throat dimensions including Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Uberti, USFA and others, but not Colt. For example, No. Checked and verified, page 285, 4th Ed.Lyman cast bullet handbook. No purchase necessary. Again using 255-grain factory loads at 860 fps, the .45 Colt reaches a factor of 14.09, while select standard-pressure handloads containing 280-grain bullets pushed to 950 fps factor at 17.17. It is my most used powder both in cap-and-ball and cartridge-firing sixguns when black powder loads are desired. The accompanying standard- pressure handloads are within SAAMI guidelines of 14,000 psi, making them suitable for modern Colt SAA revolvers and all guns chambered in .45 Colt that are designed to fire smokeless powder ammunition. A quote from Lyman Reloading Handbook, 49th Edition states, The grooves of pre-World War II revolvers normally measure .454 in diameter. Over the nearly 15 decades since its arrival, there have been many attempts to pronounce it dead. About the same time the Winchester Trappers arrived, Marlin had a very limited run of 500 each of .44 Magnum and .45 Colt Trappers. However, none of these loads should be taken for granted and should be worked up very carefully. Contrary to what has been traditionally published, records indicate that early loads from Frankford Arsenal contained a copper case loaded with a 250-grain, roundnose flatpoint lead bullet pushed with 30 grains of black powder, with additional charge weights soon added. It shoots VERY well, the recoil is tolerable, and it cuts a clean hole in both targets and small game. Some people have tried to load the .45 Colt to levels of the .44 Magnum. It is becoming more popular with the Cowboy Action Shooting since it is a mild load and can be shot in the guns chambered for the .45 Colt. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. As always there are occasional exceptions, including two guns manufactured in 1900 and 1902 that slugged .458 and .453 inch, respectively, but they seemed to be more out-of-spec than the normal. .45 Colt Keith bullets: Lyman #454424 (264 gr. Actually, we can divide 45 Colt sixguns into several reloading levels, and I have moderated these somewhat over the past several years, with the first two levels being very close together. Below you'll find some basic data for each cartridge to help get you started. The .45 Colt is rapidly approaching 150 years in existence, and it remains one of our finest, most useful, versatile and handloaded sixgun cartridges. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. N340 is a tubular powder type with grain dimensions of 1,0mm length and 0,8 mm diameter.
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